Citizendium

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Welcome to the temporary wiki planning page for the Citizendium!

As future members of Citizendium, please feel free to make this into an excellent project planning resource.

If you wish to contribute to this wiki, please sign up using your own real name as your username.

In particular, please use this page for any documents about the Citizendium project that you would like others to collaborate on. In particular, when discussion topics come up in Citizendium mailing lists, please summarize the highlights of (i.e., "refactor") the discussion here. An example topic: "What makes someone an expert?". Also, please add any pages created to Category:Citizendium.

We will move these planning pages to a specially-set up "meta" wiki when one is created.

Contents 1 Mailing list discussion summaries 2 Citizendium on the Web 3 To Do List 4 Key Discussion Pages 5 Suggestion Box 6 Bookmarks 6.1 Content 6.2 Collaborators 6.3 Incidentals 7 Other useful links

Mailing list discussion summaries

NOTE: Please add summaries to subpages (listed in the section below), not here. Assistance at migrating the content below to subpages is appreciated.

The general mailing list opened around 9 PM EDT Saturday September 20th.

Sanger posted a "Report from the Road", mentioning dual-licensing under GFDL and some CC license; the legality of this was discussed. (Report from the road - GFDL vs. CC-BY-SA)

Some suggestions about Sanger's essay, "How open collaboration works: an introduction for scholars" were posted, both in that thread, and in X.

A number of major variations in the proposed project were suggested:

• a truly rigorous/accurate resource process design which turned into a discussion of what sourcing would be required, how and how much, and led to a post on The 4 main types of sources (was Re: a truly rigorous/accurate resource process design).
• reliability, homonyms, content, sources, editors, multinationals

Citizendium on the Web

As of Friday, 22 September 2006, 06:17 GMT, a search on Google, using the term "Citizendium", returned over one million hits. Library staff around the world, whose job it is to monitor blogs to do with new forms of information and information technology, have already noticed a huge upsurge in interest in this project, as well as links to this wiki.--Phil Wardle 23:31, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

To Do List

Please add or remove things as needed:

• Define the goal of Citizendium!
• Write "To Do" list
• Determine what to do with "inherited" pages from Wikipedia.
• Establish "ideal credentials" for experts in fields
• Decide number and specificity of fields
• Get servers and technical stuff up and running.
• Work out upper-level management
• Set-up a plan for dealing with "approved" vs. "unapproved" pages.
• Marketing
• How should content be licensed?
• Logo!
• Basic policy pages
  • Round out the 4-5 we have now
    • Neutral Point of View
    • No Original Research
  • Move all pages into general namespace.
  • Create a Category:Citizendium
• Look into setting up a forum to replace the mailing list.
• Summarize discussions from mailing list on the relevant sub-pages.

Key Discussion Pages

Discussion pages are open on:

• What is the goal of Citizendium?
• What do we do with "inherited" pages from Wikipedia?.
• How should topics be structured?.
• What makes someone an expert?
• How do we define a field?
• How should we handle sourcing?
• What type of contributers do we need?
• How do we market Citizendium?
• How should the Real Names policy work?
• Which subjects or fields should we focus on?
• When should we aim to go public?

Suggestion Box

Until we get the subtopics sorted out ...

• I suggest we use a Bulletin Board system like the one they use at Wolfram's NKS Forum. I think it's called vBulletin from Jelsoft. Jon Awbrey 05:07, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

• I concur. Even when we do get the subtopics sorted out (which'll be later today), I'd say a vBulletin or something like that still beats the mailing list (which is gonna be pretty high-volume and in multiple topics). I would suggest Invision Board or Ikonboard because they're free (and we're short on money AFAIK)

All forum-based topics moved to that discussion page Do we need a temporary forum?

• In the absence of a bulletin board, it would be helpful if volunteers trawl through the mailing-list emails looking for the really cogent topics for dicussion and start a few sub-pages here. Don't forget to link them here. Peter Hitchmough 06:42, 21 September 2006 (PDT)
  • If it'll help, we could start by knocking together a short chrono summary. By short, I mean who posted, what the subject line was, and the gist of the post, and by 'the gist of' I mean 'an order of magnitude smaller than'. I'll try and grovel through the archives for a first-pass version within 24ish hours of now (gotta sleep first, it's night here), slapping it up as Citizendium-l at a glance. I think that will be more wieldy for a topic-trawler than the whole raw history. See the forest for the trees and all. Nathan Ellis Rasmussen 05:05, 22 September 2006 (PDT)

• Has anybody subscribed the lists to Gmane yet? Jon Awbrey 07:26, 21 September 2006 (PDT)
  • Not that I know of. I guess that's up to moderators or Larry Sanger.--ZachPruckowski 07:31, 21 September 2006 (PDT)

Bookmarks

Content

• How do we define a field?
• How should we handle sourcing?
• How should topics be structured?

Collaborators

• On the nature and varieties of expertise
• What makes someone an expert?
• What types of contributors do we need?

Incidentals

• What should we do about importing articles?

Other useful links

• Citizendium press
• Citizendium mailing lists