User talk:Jon Awbrey/TEXTEP

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Jon, can you briefly explain what the point of this page is? --Larry Sanger 19:13, 7 September 2006 (PDT)

JA: Hi Larry, welcome back. I had posted a notice on the comm port page that described the project, to wit:

Opportunities for Collaboration

Textep, Textime, Evolving Text Analysis

• I started a project scarecrow-named Textep, for Text Evolution Project, at User:Jon Awbrey/TEXTEP. The idea here is to take text-outlining into the fourth dimension, developing tools for tracking and analyzing how texts evolve over time. (I may change the name to Textime, not sure yet.)

• The driving vision here actually goes back to a line of work on "Idea Processors" that I pursued and programmed all through the 1980's. The very primitive prototype that I mocked up then integrated an Adaptive Indexer or a Sequence Learner (the "Empiricict", you might say) with a Propositional Modeler (the "Rationalist" half of the brain). I eventually managed to exchange some of this work for a Master's in Psych (Mich State, 1989), and other parts of it I followed up during what turned out to be a decade-long capstone of work in systems engineering at Oakland University (the one in Michigan). But the full model has yet to be implemented by me or anybody else in the time since. So ...

• One application that I have in mind is the analysis of texts that develop in the article and policy spaces of wikis. I started a couple of WikiProjects at WikiPedia to explore a few pressing applications (crying needs), so we'll see how that goes:
  • MOTA — Methods Of Text Analysis.
  • MOPA — Methods Of Policy Analysis.

• Well, scratch that, as the WikiPolice just did — for what they call a WP:POINT violation — don't bother trying to figure out what that means, it's just another one of those all-purpose argument-or-anything-else stoppers that they have over there. These guys keep trying trying to lower my expectations for the future of WP. Hah! That's pretty ironic, if you catch my drift. Jon Awbrey 14:40, 6 September 2006 (PDT)

JA: So the textual time series on WP:NOR was just an example of a moderately complex policy text that developed over time. But the usually suspicious types at WP deleted all my projects on Text and Policy Analysis, so this is a dead horse now, and the raw data parts can be deleted.

JA: If you can think of another sort of evolving text — I know of several from Peirce where he developed a paper through many drafts over 4 or 5 years, but again with the public domain problems — then that might constitute more of a live example to think about. Jon Awbrey 20:22, 7 September 2006 (PDT)

Jon, please use another venue to keep track of Wikipedia stuff. I'll be deleting this page in a few days (to give you time to make a copy if you wish). --Larry Sanger 16:30, 8 September 2006 (PDT)

JA: Larry, no problem, already gone. Developments since that time have made the WP example no longer of primary interest to me anyway. Jon Awbrey 17:26, 8 September 2006 (PDT)